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Enhancement: Workflow Extras(?) Addon: Make workflow source channel clickable

Thu, 10 Aug 2023 20:38:35 -0500

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Matt Dent wrote the following post Thu, 10 Aug 2023 20:38:34 -0500

Enhancement: Workflow Extras(?) Addon: Make workflow source channel clickable

Make the channel designation of a workflow item in the "Basic Task List" view to be clickable and when clicked, runs a search that returns only items from that workflow (or links the user to that channel's workflow page - with the appropriate ZID attached to the URL)

Sat, 19 Aug 2023 07:47:23 -0500

Matt Dent

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Actually, this is a little more difficult than originally thought because of the nomadic reality that a channel can reside on multiple hubs and it isn't necessarily true that any given hub will have the workflow addon installed (this alone could potentially create problems which I have not yet seen reported).

In any event, the best solution for this request may be to include workflow endpoint information in the channel notifications using the "zotinfo" and "import_xchan" hooks and saving workflow endpoints/hublocs in the xconfig of the channel.

This may in the longer term have some additional helpful effects. But what it will prevent is the need to make assumptions about the URL and mangling it in a hacky way.

Due to the complexity discovered, the skill level has been changed to DIFFICULT. This may not be something we wish to tackle immediately.

ENHANCEMENT: Remove "Create Workflow Item" option when user is not logged in/not workflow authorized/has no workflows

Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:29:07 -0500

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Matt Dent wrote the following post Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:29:07 -0500

ENHANCEMENT: Remove "Create Workflow Item" option when user is not logged in/not workflow authorized/has no workflows

DESCRIPTION: Currently, if a user is not logged in but the WORKFLOW addon is enabled on a channel, the option to create a workflow item from a post/comment is available. This should only be available if (1) The user is logged in. PERHAPS also adding a JAVASCRIPT fetch the logged in user's home "hub" to determine whether the logged in user has any workflows would be good as well.

DISCUSSION: The WORKFLOW addon is a bit complicated due to the distributed/decentralized environment in which it operates. It uses JS to communicate both with the site being viewed along with the user's home site and/or the site that hosts the workflow that "contains" the item being referenced. Thus, there are up to three different hosts/hubs involved in the communications stream of interacting with a workflow item.

RESEARCH: Document actual capabilities and functionality of "can administer my channel"

Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:03:27 -0500

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Matt Dent wrote the following post Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:03:27 -0500

RESEARCH: Document actual capabilities and functionality of "can administer my channel"

Description: The permission, "Can administer my channel" is available in the "CHANNEL ROLE" assignments, however there is limited (and likely outdated) documentation about the extent to which someone delegated this permission can actually carry out tasks "on behalf of" the other user.

Need to discover and document the limits and also need to discover/document the USE of that feature.

May also be worth considering created a separated delegated capability to specifically "admin channel connections" or investigate/document the needs of "moderators" and to what extent additional permissions may be needed (beyond what's available in existing resources and addons like the "channelreputation" addon).

ENHANCEMENT: Delegated Sysadmin Capabilities

Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:59:44 -0500

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Matt Dent wrote the following post Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:59:44 -0500

ENHANCEMENT: Delegated Sysadmin Capabilities

Description: Create the ability to delegate select sysadmin tasks (eg., approve registrations) to non-sysadmins.

NEW ADDON: Channel Tree "Widget"

Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:38:58 -0500

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Matt Dent wrote the following post Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:38:58 -0500

NEW ADDON: Channel Tree "Widget"

GOAL: Create a "channel tree" to organize related channels in a manner similar to the channel selection in DISCORD, MATTERMOST and other channel based interfaces.

DISCUSSION: Though Hubzilla is not a "chat" based system, the ability to organize related channels and group them in a way that is similar to current chat based interfaces is a helpful tool for building community and alerting users to other channels related either in content or intent to one another.

This project will require an ADDON to be created that contains a WIDGET and will require some (hopefully very limited) updates to the CORE of Hubzilla.

This project will require coders in JAVASCRIPT, HTML, CSS and PHP.

INITIAL DETAILS:

CORE: Need to create a way for channel owners to send to channel subscribers.  This can likely be done in the subsystem that updates permission information and connection information.

ADDON: It is best to find where the changes need to be made in CORE and then to insert appropriate HOOKS to change the default behavior through an ADDON.  Thus, the logic and heavy lifting will be done inside the ADDON and not in the CORE of Hubzilla.

UI: We will need CSS/HTML/JS for the display and interactivity.
UI: We will need CSS/HTML/JS for settings page(s) to update the list of "related channels."

INITIAL SCOPE: The widget should be a "tree" and each branch should indicate the following:
(1) Whether a channel has related channels (perhaps with a + or using an arrow <  \/  to toggle viewing the subchannels) - watch out for recursion. Maybe determine maximum depth?
(2) Whether a channel has new activity
(3) Whether a channel/related channel is subscribed to or not
(4) An interface to add/remove/update "related channels"
(4) MAYBE: Whether a channel has permission to "post" and "comment"
(5) MAYBE: Whether a channel has additional resources ("chat", "wiki", "workflow", etc.)
(6) MAYBE: Add permission option to "Contact Roles" or "Privacy Groups" as to whether or not to send "related channels" information to a given contact OR a two tier "public related channels"/"private related channels" OR make these options as part of the add/remove/update interface

The ADDON and CORE updates will need to support these features.

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Fri, 18 Aug 2023 18:22:00 -0500

Matt Dent

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1) RELEVANT HOOKS:

* "zotinfo" - found in Zotlabs/Lib/Libzot.php:2885

The "zotinfo" hook allows the mainipulation of the array returned when permissions and channel info is requested.

* "import_xchan" - found in Zotlabs/Lib/Libzot.php:661

The "import_xchan" hook allows additional processing of the array returned when permission and channel info is returned after it has been requested.

The ADDON should hook into both of these hooks to return an additional element in the array, "addon:channelsuggestions", containing the type of suggestion:
  * "admin" - designates a channel that "administers" the current channel (eg, a channel that represents moderators for a forum, or performs some administrative function like the billing "department" for a channel that is primarily a "store", or a channel for private messaging an "owner" of a forum),
  * "related" - channel directly relates to the main channel - the idea is a channel that belongs in some way is "administratively" related either because the channel is another channel from the same company, organization, or group, etc. (a departments of a company, subgroup of a main group, etc.),
  * "suggested" - for channels that may have a relationship through similarity of content, viewpoint, or other similarity but may not be jointly administered by the owner of the sending channel.)

Additional features:

Add permission, "Can send me channel suggestions" in "Channel Role"
Add permission, "Auto accept related channels" in "Channel Role"
Create a "enable sitewide" option in admin/settings
Create an interface to add/remove related and suggested channels

WIDGET

The addon will also create a widget that can be added to pages.  The widget should provide a clickable list of channels set up as a "tree" for related channels:

* CHANNEL
  - related
  - related
  - related

Need to somehow distinguish subscribed/unsubscribed - clicks to "unsubscribed"
Would be good to have an indicator for "new"/"unseen" messages in a given channel.

Some UI element for suggested channels should also be supplied - maybe a special section: "Suggested for you: ..." when you are viewing a channel with "suggestions" (or a channel suggested by a channel with other unsubscribed suggestions).

The widget should behave differently whether the observer is on their own "stream"/"network"/"HQ" page (i.e., when they are on their home hub viewing one of their own stuff) versus when an observer visits a page that has related/suggested channels.

In the latter case, if the related channels are "owned" by the same account as the channel being viewed, then the channels can be included as "related" in the list and information about whether or not there are new/viewed items can be included (note, there is NO WAY to know if someone viewed items on their own local channel while they are viewing on the remote - this is just something users will need to get used to - i.e., if they visit the channel directly, the channel will not know whether or not they have viewed things locally and so they may feel as if they've received duplicate "notifications" about new material --- it *MAY* be possible to alleviate this problem with the use of frames and some inter-frame communications - but that's a whole can of worms.  The idea would be that the "channel list" would actually be a frame sourced from the user's home node rather than "visiting" the remote node directly.  The "WORKFLOW" addon does some of this sort of thing, but communication from frame to parent is a bit arduous since they are not on the same server).

Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:15:20 -0500

Matt Dent

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Behavioral Description:

ADMIN CHANNELS - To be added as an "admin" channel, the channel must be owned by the same account.
RELATED CHANNELS - To be added as a "related" channel, the channel must have a hubloc on the current server
SUGGESTED CHANNELS - Any channel can be added as a suggestion

ADMIN and RELATED channels will appear in the list together under the main channel as a "heading". The "Admin/Related" list will default to showing. Admin channels will be listed before "related" channels. The "suggested" list will default to not showing and will appear below the "Admin/Related" list as "suggested channels"

Tue, 05 Sep 2023 21:37:41 -0500

Matt Dent

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First pass completed. The current features allow the following:

Admin & Related channels can be added
Settings interface
"Server Connections" widget - displays a list of channels whose profiles are configured to "suggest me" and shows "related" channels underneath. If a channel configured to "suggest me" appears as a related channel and does not itself have related channels, then it only shows as a relation and not as a primary channel. Channels set as "admin relations" do not need the "suggest me" option set. Channels set as "related" must have the "suggest me" option.

Mon, 07 Aug 2023 15:38:37 -0500

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